The decision between building a mainstream PC and a high-end desktop has been very clear in the past: if the budget is a problem and you are interested in gaming, a user usually looks at the mainstream. If a user wants to work more professionally, he has to look at the high-end desktop. Over the last AMD series of high-core Ryzen processors, this line has blurred. This year, this line has disappeared. Even in 2016, four cores were the most suitable for the mainstream CPUs, today there are sixteen.
Does anyone need sixteen cores? Yes.
Does everyone need sixteen cores?
For most PC manufacturers, there are two basic drivers: cost and performance. Users who want a slot machine will invest their dollars in what gives them the best gaming performance. Users who want to edit videos will be interested in content-targeted hardware. For those in the business world, the added incentive to add value is to offset or amortize those costs through an improved work rate. If the video editor needs one week per video and can spend 40% halving render time, it will pay off in a short time.
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For this purpose, AMD's Ryzen processors were on time. The mainstream Ryzen first-generation hardware in 2017 was a breath of fresh air in a market that was so stale that it was no longer exciting. When the color was empty, AMD's Ryzen enabled up to eight cores on a single CPU and at that time was eager to compete against the Intel hardware of the above class. The new architecture did not evolve from day to day on day one, but it did allow a different paradigm at a very reasonable price.
Enter Round 2 and Zen 2 a kernel on the market at the same price as 8 or the 4-core price that had been set only three years ago. In three years we have tripled the cores for the same price, and these cores also have a higher crude output. The frequency was not as high as that of the competition, but this was offset by the raw clock-by-clock throughput, and ultimately the competition now offered eight cores, AMD 12 at a much lower power consumption.
Part 2 of the second round today: Take the same 12-core processor and add four more cores (for a 50% price increase) and look not only for the best consumer processor Intel has to offer, but also the best high-end processor desktop processor. This means that AMD is putting pressure on Intel's product portfolio like never before. What exactly is mainstream?
AMD's new Ryzen 9 3950X has a suggested retail price of $ 749. For this AMD advertises with 16 of its latest Zen 2 cores based on TSMC's 7nm process running at a base frequency of 3.5GHz and a single core turbo frequency of 4.7GHz. The TDP of the chip is 105 watts and has 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes and two memory channels supporting up to 128 GB DDR4-3200.
|AMD & # 39; Matisse & # 39; Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs|
| AnandTech  Cores
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|Ryzen 9||3950X||16C||32T||3.5||4.7 [8MB||64 MB||16 + 4 + 4||1 + 2||105W||$ 749|
|Ryzen 9||3900X||12C||24T||3.8||4.6 [19659013 64 MB||16 + 4 + 4||1 + 2||105 W||$ 499|
|Ryzen 9||3900||12C||24T||3.1] 4 , 3||6 MB||64 MB||16 + 4 + 4||1 + 2||65 W||OEM|
|Ryzen 7||3800X||8C  16T||3.9||4.5||4 MB||32 MB||16 + 4 + 4||1 + 1||105W||$ 399|
|Ryzen 7  3700 [1 9659012] 8C||16T||3.6||4.4||4 MB||32 MB [1 9659013] 16 + 4 + 4||1 + 1||65 W  $ 329|
|Ryzen 5||3600X||6C||12T||3.8||4.4 MB||32 MB||16 + 4 + 4||1 + 1||95 W||249 USD|
|Ryzen 5||3600||6C||12T||3.6 19659013] 4.2||3 MB||32 MB  16 + 4 + 4||1 + 1||65W||$ 199|
|Ryzen 5||3500X||6C [1900X] 6T||3.6||4.1||3 MB||32 MB||16 + 4 + 4||1 + 1||65W||OEM|
It was not that long ago, this price range was the realm of high-end desktop AMD AMD 8-core thread ripper processors, and we started with up to 32 cores. AMD is also changing that paradigm: this 16-core chip costs $ 749, and AMD's Next Generation Threadripper 3000 processors cost $ 1399 from 24 cores. As AMD Managing Director Lisa Su was asked at the beginning of the year what would happen if more cores were needed for the mainstream processors, her response was, "When Ryzen climbs, threadripper goes up". This is the realization of it.
It is worth noting that the retail price is likely to be higher initially, as high demand is expected and stock levels have not been defined – given the popularity of the 12-core chip, it seems that users who use the mainstream Want to platform, always want the best.
Towards AM4: Fighting with Motherboards
When the AM4 platform was first launched, it technically supported four cores with pre-Zen hardware. The same platform is now enough for up to 16 cores, which is no easy task. The downside is motherboard support: some AM4 motherboards are not designed for 16 core high performance processors. Some motherboards built on the AM4 socket were designed for the budget market and will have problems when it comes to this 16-core part.
AMD has tried to segment its AM4 market at least a little bit. Only the latest AM4 chipset, the X570 chipset, officially supports the Ryzen 3000 series PCIe 4.0 connections. To enable the PCIe 4.0 lanes on the processor as qualified by AMD, users must purchase an X570 motherboard. Otherwise, these lanes will run on non-X570 motherboards at half speed (PCIe 3.0).
The quality of the motherboard probably also affects the turbo frequencies. AMD's turbo algorithms are partly influenced by the ability of the power supply to push power from the power supply. We can see that the X570 motherboards range from $ 170 to $ 999. This does not mean that doubling the cost of the motherboard doubles the turbo capability, but as with the previous Ryzen 3000 series chips, the choice of motherboard (as well as the cooling used) will play a role.
All the X570 motherboards we tested recently are up to the task of taming the Ryzen 9 3950X. Here is a list of components tested:
Users looking at motherboards need to find the right mix of capacity, cost, and features. We have all over 35 models visually inspected.
From head to toe: Intel Core i9-9900KS / Core i9-9980XE / Core i9-10980XE
Faced with the mainstream and high-end desktop market Through the merger, there are many perspectives to differentiate between competitive parts Intel and AMD to consider. If we only compete on PCIe lanes, we could face the Core i9-9900KS (8 cores) against the 3950X (16 cores), even though there is a big price difference ($ 513 vs. $ 749). If we compare the prices, the closest processor to the 3950X would be either the 9900KS (mainstream) or the Core i9-10940X ($ 729), while the 3950X has more cores than both, but not so many PCIe lanes / memory lanes like the 10940X. If we look at the number of cores, the Intel Core i9-9960X with its sixteen cores is the obvious candidate, although this CPU is much more expensive (until Intel drops the price) and technically is an X299 processor, so more PCIe Lanes and memory channels.
| Unlocked CPU Pricing
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|Cores||AnandTech||Cores|| Intel *
|900-999 USD||18/36||Core i9-10980XE (979 USD)|
|800-899 USD [19659129129129129|
|Ryzen 9 3950X (749 USD)||16/32||700-799 USD||14/28||Core i9-10940X (784 USD)||||$ 600- $ 699||12/24||Core i9-10920X ($ 689)|
|$ 500- $ 599|| 10/20 [1945
| Core i9-10900X ($ 590)
Core i9-9900KS ($ 513)
|Ryzen 9 3900X ($ 499)||12/24||$ 400- $ 499||8/16||Core i9-9900K / F ($ 488 )|
|Ryzen 7 3800X (399 USD)|| 8/16
|8/8||Core i7-9700K / F (374 USD)|
|Ryzen 7 3700X ( 329 USD)||8/16||$ 300- $ 349|
|$ 250- $ 299||6/6||Core i5-9600K ($ 262)|
|Ryzen 5 362 19659129] 6/12||$ 200- $ 249|
|Ryzen 5 3600 ($ 199)||6/12||Under $ 200||4/4||Core i3-9350 ($ 173)|
|* Intel offers OEM / Tray pricing. Retail prices are sometimes $ 20 to $ 50 higher.|
There is no easy comparison between the processors. AMD extends the boundaries of the mainstream dual-channel storage processor regime, and Intel does not have an equivalent in this area. Intel can compete in the high-end desktop space, but also has other issues with PCIe lane counters and memory channel support differences between the two. In addition, Intel currently offers high-priced retail options. Intel's next generation hardware is expected to hit the market sometime in November and there will be a series of price cuts. However, given the well-known differences between Intel's current and Intel's next-generation processor line, it is unlikely that performance will increase significantly.