The personal advocate of President Donald Trump, the former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, did not provide his client with relief in a CNN interview on Wednesday evening, in which he admitted that former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort,
Giuliani made this concession when he was hosted by host Chris Cuomo, over a new revelation stating that Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller believes that Manafort's "survey data" with Konstantin Kilimnik, a former lawyer Colleagues of Manafort, "in connection with the presidential campaign 201
As Cuomo pointed out, social media accounts linked to Russia that conducted a cyber campaign for Trump had been targeted at some of the same groups as the Trump campaign – African Americans, women and white liberals. While there is still no evidence of collusion with the Smoke Pistol, the synchronicity between the Trump campaign's efforts and the Russians' efforts, which Müller says to have been working for Trump's support, suggests a kind of coordination.
"How is that no agreement?" Cuomo asked.
Giuliani did not have good answers.
"Query data is shared with everyone," Giuliani said. "I can not speak for Paul Manafort … the most inaccurate stuff is internal survey data."
Cuomo replied, "They came to the same conclusions as to whom to turn to and where." "If you give people who are trying to intervene in an election information about whom to turn to, you will not see it as collusion? "
" Not with the President of the United States, not with Donald Trump, "Giuliani replied. In his attempt to dissuade Trump from his former campaign manager, Giuliani claimed, "I never said that there was no collision between the campaign or between the people in the campaign … I did not President of the United States. "
However, Trump has repeatedly said there that" was no collusion between "the Trump campaign and the Russian people", including just last month – a position that now contradicting the position of his lawyer.
Giuliani's new point of conversation is also at odds with what he said last July when he claimed that, "when I say the Trump campaign "[did not collude] I mean the upper levels of the Trump campaign … Top 4 or 5 people" – a group that would probably have included Manafort.
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Giuliani's Commentary Manafort was not the only time he had any trouble during the interview with Cuomo. Nor could he explain why Trump did not know about pro-Russian changes to the 2016 Republican National Committee platform.
"The president was unaware of this," Giuliani claimed, pointing to a change in the RNC platform that spoke the language about America's commitment to arming Ukrainians trying to fend off Russian invaders who were troubling people at the time , softened.
"He did not know what the platform of his own party is?" Asked Cuomo.
Giuliani came in laughter.
"Chris, come on, you've been into politics enough to know that contestants know nothing about the platform. They do not pay attention to the platform, "he finally replied.
Finally, Giuliani argued that Trump, as there was no evidence of it, was directly involved in the hacking of democratic goals, did nothing to accusatory.
" There it is It's not a single piece of evidence that the President of the United States has committed the only crime you can commit here – conspiring with the Russians to hack the DNC, "Giuliani said (Trump, however, is linked to violations of the judiciary) Investigated by former FBI director James Comey, FBI investigations into his campaign are a crime, and the conspiracy against the United States is also a crime – a manafort already known as guilty.)
But as Cuomo has pointed out : "Crime is not the accountability of a president – it's about what you knew, what was right and what was wrong and what you betrayed about. "19659021] Before the interview was over, Giuliani's tortured position seemed to be such that there was no collusion. If this was not the case, Trump did not know about it and had not been able to prove it for a long time anyway.
. @RudyGiuliani allows for the possibility of collusion with the campaign while saying that this was not the case.
"When the collusion took place, it happened a long time ago, it's either provable or it's not provable, it's not provable because it never happened … there's no chance." pic .twitter.com / gZKZGRksdN
– Cuomo Prime Time (@CuomoPrimeTime) January 17, 2019
The Washington Post notes that Giuliani's comments are "the first time anyone has confirmed the possibility." that someone collaborated without Trump's knowledge. "