WASHINGTON – Spokeswoman Nancy Pelosi does not believe that President Trump can be removed by impeachment. The only way to do this, she said this week, is to defeat him in 2020 with such a big lead that he can not question the legitimacy of a Democratic victory.
That's something she's worried about.
"We need to vaccinate against it, we need to be prepared for it," Ms. Pelosi said in an interview at the Capitol Hill Wednesday, while she talked about her concern that Trump would not give up power voluntarily when he re-elected next year only just lose.
"The middle left, the mainstream," said Ms. Pelosi, 79,
Passions were about health care, bigger paychecks and cleaner government – a simple message, "said Ms. Pelosi about the 40-seat Democratic pickup, who led to her second promotion to the last year. "We have not participated in some of the other exuberances of our party" – a reference to some of the most ambitious plans that the left wing of their party advocates, and some 2020 candidates, including "Medicare for all" and the Green New Deal, its support she refused.
Almost five months after her second term, Ms. Pelosi seems to accept her role as the only Democrat who has the power to stand up to Trump. While feeling comfortable fighting with him, her dissatisfaction with the president's behavior since the triumphant elections of the Democrats has only intensified.
Few people outside of Ms. Pelio's inner circle were aware of how worried she was that Mr. Trump would try to prevent the opposition party from taking control of the house, unless the Democrats won strong enough to be undeniable.
"If we win four seats and a thousand votes each, then he will not respect the election," he said Ms. Pelosi recalled her thinking in the run-up to the 2018 election.
"He would poison public consciousness. He would challenge each of the races; He would say you can not put these people, "she added. "We had to win. Imagine we did not win – oh, do not even introduce yourself. Therefore, we must pursue the same approach in the future. "
In recent weeks, Ms. Pelosi has told colleagues that she does not automatically trust the President to respect the results of every election on the eve of overwhelming defeat. This view, fueled by Mr Trump's repeated and unsubstantiated claims of democratic electoral fraud is one of the reasons why she believes that it is imperative not to play the president, especially in relation to it on the impeachment.
Over the past two weeks, Mr. Trump has increased pressure on Ms. Pelosi and reaffirms his intention to prevent current and former officials, such as former White House attorney Donald F. McGahn II, from testifying before the Democratic Committee. In the meantime, Attorney General William P. Barr's defiant statement to the Senate Judiciary Committee has led Ms. Pelosi to declare that he has committed a "crime" by contradicting his earlier claims regarding interactions with the Special Envoy, Robert S. Muller III ,
The president appears encouraged by the confrontation, and he considers the compliant Republican Senate majority – which is unlikely to convict him if Parliament initiates impeachment – as a license to spur on Ms. Pelosi's team, said two people who are familiar with the thinking of the president.
Ms. Pelosi remains committed to avoiding impeachment, but it is clear she is losing patience. After focusing on the House business during the day, she watched excerpts from Mr. Barr's testimony at her residence in Washington, Georgetown on Wednesday.
She was dismayed that Mr. Barr had apparently objected to an earlier allegation made in front of a house committee in April that no one in Mr. Müller's team had dealt with the four-page summary of the results of the Attorney General's report , Mr. Barr's refusal to testify before the House Judiciary Committee only compounded the anger of the speaker.
"When you look at Barr, just think," How could he sell his alleged soul to Donald Trump? "Ms. Pelosi told her whip team in early Thursday that the detailed notes of one person in the room.
Having Mr. Barr as a political goal is useful because it allows the Democrats to focus on him instead of the president and in the private sector, however, Mrs Pelosi is increasingly suggesting that Mr Trump's behavior raises to the level of impeachment, even if she regards the process itself as unacceptably dangerous to the Democrats.
The President is curious about the state's spokesman Even though the war between the branches is increasing, his description of Ms. Pelosi is respectful – "tough" – and he has told the congressional allies that he respects Ms. Pelosi more than her predecessor Paul D. Ryan, because they are keeping Backbenchers from doing so can kidnap her caucus. "
" Maybe he knows I pray for him, "she shrugged "I pray that his heart will be open to the good things to help people instead of taking babies out of their mothers arms."
Pelosi underwent a conversation on Wednesday with scathing descriptions of Mr. Trumps Suitability as president, speaking during his negotiating rounds with his "attention span" and his "lack of knowledge about the people present", saying his behavior "degrades" the country and "dishonor" the constitution.
Pelosi laughed when asked how her father Thomas D & # 39; Alesandro Jr., a Democratic mayor of Baltimore and a former congressman known for his political tenacity, had contacted Trump.
as if they spoke foreign languages, "she said. "I do not think my father could ever have imagined a president ignoring his oath of office to the extent that this president does."
Pelosi also shared some thoughts about the expansionary and expanding democratic field of presidential candidates. Joseph R. Biden Jr. "took off because people know him," she said. "They trust him."
Asked whether Mr. Biden would pay a political price in 1991 at the hearings of Justice Clarence Thomas for the barbecue of Anita F. Hill, Ms. Pelosi shook her head and waved dismissively ,
More than anything else, Ms. Pelosi is focusing on pursuing the center-left policy that she believes will help her party in 2020 – a focus on pragmatic improvements in health care, electoral law, cleanliness Government, immigration and infrastructure. one that emphasizes politically beating Mr. Trump without personally possessing Mr. Trump.
For them, this means thwarting the initiatives that they hope will support the re-election of new members in battlefield districts, even if this does bring some results for Mr. Trump and some critics on the left.
Mr. Trump met with Ms. Pelosi and other Democratic leaders this week at the request of the spokesman, and agreed to work on a $ 2 trillion package to repair the country's destroyed roads, bridges, sewage systems, and waterworks. and secured its commitment to the development of the broadband network at national level and overhaul the outdated electricity network in the country.
"I like the number you used, Nancy – two trillion dollars," said Trump, according to a counselor who was present in the White House. "I will be a leader here."
The interaction was warm. Once, the President pulled a box of white Tic Tacs out of his suit jacket and offered it to the speaker, who shook out a couple for himself.
Later that night, Mr. Trump cheerfully called Ms. Pelosi to repeat this. He really wanted to make a deal, despite the likely opposition of many Senate Republicans and then-Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney.
Pelosi reiterated her demand that Mr. Trump provide her with a detailed payment plan, and he felt optimistic but was not sure if the President should focus on it.
"Well," said Ms. Pelosi. This is an attention-grabbing topic. "