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Thanos creator Jim Starlin on Endgame, Phase 4 and a Guardians 3 hero



When Avengers: Endgame broke nearly every cash record record this weekend, Marvel Studios' success is based on the work of decades and decades of comic book creators. And for the ultimate villain of the saga, Thanos, the company owes a guy: the writer and artist Jim Starlin.

Polygon teamed with Starlin, who also founded Gamora and Drax the Destroyer after winning Endgame at the Los Angeles Premiere in Los Angeles. Marvel's latest blockbuster may have put an end to the Marvel Cinematic Universe's "Infinity Saga," but the story continues with Phase 4, which is likely to see even more Starlin characters like the martial artist Shang-Chi and perhaps even the god like Adam Warlock.

Starlin provided a window into the story of the Marvel Comics Universe ̵

1; and also a window to the adaptation process of Marvel Studios, which he opposed during the turbulent pre-production of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 . He even explained why Thanos did not double all resources in the universe. It's not a plotting hole when Jim Starlin has an answer.

[ Ed. note : This interview contains spoilers for Avengers: Endgame .]


Polygon: How do you feel about Thanos in the movies? Was there something you would like to see? Or, conversely, was there anything the Russos did to Thanos that you wish you had done first?

Jim Starlin : I've worked with film scripts before, and I've come to the conclusion that anyone who thinks he's going to get a copy of what he wrote down is just stupid. These film production companies spend millions upon millions of dollars working with their universe, which is different from the comic universe. All in all, no, I was very happy with what they did with Thanos.

In fact, there were a few things that they did that I thought were really great ideas that I wish I'd made in comics, like when he takes off his armor when he does get some gems – Tones you name it – and do not need the armor anymore. It just never seemed like an idea to me back then, and I thought, Oh yes, that makes perfect sense . I know that many people were upset about it, but it reappears in Avengers: Endgame ]. So everything is well balanced.

My only criticism is a small criticism. I miss his yellow eyes, which blushed when he got angry, but I see why they did it. there is [Thanos’ actor Josh] Brolin a better chance to emulate with the students and all that. The blue that I think works in the movie probably better than the yellow eyes and the red flair would have been too contrasting.


  Thanos' eye flares red with anger over Mistress Death in Infinity Gauntlet # 2, Marvel Comics (1991).

Thanos & # 39; s eye flares with anger over Mistress Death in Infinity Gauntlet # 2 red on.
Jim Starlin, George Pérez / Marvel Comics

But you know, I think they really stuck to the spirit of the character, if not the exact letter of it. I think Josh Brolin [writers Stephen McFeely, Christopher Marcus,] and the Russos have put together their little story great. I think about it: "How would Arthur Conan Doyle feel if he saw all the different movie versions of Sherlock Holmes?" He would not recognize it at certain points. You have to come into play and find that there will be changes.

One of the things that people have been struggling with for Infinity War is also one of the biggest changes: their motivation is different. He's not in love with Mistress Death, which leaves questions to him: "Why did not he make twice as many resources with the Infinity Stones, instead of killing half of life?" Both as the guy who created the character and as someone who understands that things are changing in adaptation, do you have your own solution to this new question from Thanos' motivations? A bit too early to add these abstract elements to the mix. This is, I think, something they will change as soon as they have a few more Doctor Strange movies available.


  Deputy Mistress Orders Death Thanos to Universe in Silver Surfer # 34, Marvel Comics (1990)

Mistress Death orders Thanos to "balance" the universe in Silver Surfer # 34.
Jim Starlin, Ron Lim / Marvel Comics

His motivation for the film is actually straight out of the comics, in issue 34 of Silver Surfer ; this was my path that I wanted to take with me in the infinity suite of 19459003 (19459003), but I quickly realized that I wanted to go into a corner and the mistress wanted to bring death because she had been an aspect of the character before. So I changed that and made it so that it was just a scam. So, [his MCU motivation is] is consistent with the spirit of the character and plot, though not exactly on the trail. Things change and you go with the river and enjoy the ride for as long as you can.

Gamora and Drax, a few members of the Guardians of the Galaxy you created, have been looking for some soul to put a lot of focus on them now. Life, Thanos, has definitely been killed.

Starlin : Well, these multiple timelines they created in Endgame when they were really very familiar [they] lead you to a point where you have to start compile a flowchart to find out where everyone is and where to start. I was able to explain my own mind where Gamora will be in the next movie because she's back. She is not in the last scene in the spaceship with the other guys, but that does not mean she will not be connected to them.

Thor is not necessarily a Guardian now either. I mean, he ran away with them […] but that does not mean he'll be in the next Guardians movie. He was not in the situation when James Gunn wrote his screenplay for this film. So we have to see.

One of the biggest characters in the Infinity Gauntlet who is not in the movie is one of you, Adam Warlock. He was defeated at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 but Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, no. 3 seems to have undergone many upheavals. If Warlock shows up in the next Guardians or a later Marvel movie, what would you like to figure out from this character in the movies?

Starlin : Well, the scuttlebut is that he was a villain, as he did in the comics when he was he. Probably the Guardians are after the end [ Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 ]. What happens to him after that gives an idea.

Marvel plays these things very close to the waistcoat and has announced several other films that will come up in the next phase, but that does not mean that will not come any more. So I hope that we will see Warlock again after the next Guardians movie if he appears in it. And I hope he encounters a fellow named Pip the Troll, whom I really want to see when he gets into a movie.


  Adam Warlock and Pip the Troll in Infinity Gauntlet # 2, Marvel Comics (1991).

Adam Warlock and Pip the Troll in Infinity Gauntlet # 2.
Jim Starlin, George Pérez / Marvel Comics

What makes Pip see him in a movie?

Starlin : [He’s a] perfect foil. If you have a character like Warlock, you need someone to play a straight man for. And Pip would be perfect for that. He's just one of my favorite characters among the guys I created. I think it's Pip, Dreadstar and Thanos who are my favorites.

They also participated in the creation of Shang-Chi by Marvel Comics, whose adaptation by Marvel Studios seems to be.

Starlin : Steven Engleheart and I made it together and I only had four problems because I wanted to return to Captain Marvel and Thanos, which I did at the same time. I had a short run on Shang-Chi and I'm really curious to see the movie, because this is a tricky movie.

I can not wait to see how they do it, so it's not just another kung fu movie for which we have hundreds of such things. But I am convinced that these guys will find a hook at Marvel that does it differently.


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